Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

[S.A.M.]

if q causes p ... nothing can be said about lack of p not causing q. Illogical statement on your part

If people who are fat have less ambitions

than people who are not fat...nothing can be said about their ambitions.

And if q causes p then occurrence of q without p and occurrence of p without q is not possible; if there is widespread occurennce of both q and p in each others absence, it shows that the relationship between p and q is not cause/effect.

 

[draqon]

Well then isn't ambtion a matter of personal perspective? If your ambition is to eat pizza and chips all day then couldnt a fat person just be extremely ambitious? Just because you see somones life ambition as evil doesnt mean it is, and generally speaking too much ambition in a certain area can be a bad thing, Hitler was very very amibitious.

thats the thing...ambition is according to that who is more intelligent...and most intelligent survive. Hitler or evil people or people who eat pizza and chips are not ambitious to me because they choose the wrong thing to strive for. And they are not intelligent because...they all die quickly, Hitler is dead because of his evil ambitions, evil people are dead because they are halted by society, and people who eat pizza and cheaps die young because their body collapses.

 

[Satyr]

And if q causes p then q without p and p without q show that the relationship between p and q is not causal.

I recently was made aware that you are a moderator on two different forums, one of which is the Monkey's.

How nice of you to be so expert as to warrant such an honorary position of presumed authority and how wonderfully you kiss your master's big, bright-red ass.

 

[draqon]

I recently was made aware that you are a moderator on two different forums, one of which is the Monkey's.

How nice of you to be so expert as to warrant such an honorary position of presumed authority and how wonderfully you kiss your master's big, bright-red ass.

what's with the hostility?

 

[S.A.M.]

Intelligence is the usage of imagination to project the known into the unknown, as a method of predicting and preparing for circumstances and so to more efficiently deal with them.

As such intelligence collects sensual data and constructs abstractions, or mental models, which it can then use to analyze and to find patterns of predictable behavior.

Because these abstractions cannot be measured or observed, intelligence is measured by the outcome or by the organism's ability to adapt and to predict.

Race is a human distinction, based on physical markers, meant to distinguish between group that share a common heritage.
A common heritage which resulted in the very markers used to differentiate them.
Color, shape, sound and all the human senses are employed to distinguish categories and so, even here, they are used no less.

Intelligence is an evolutionary mutation which offers an advantage to the organism possessing it. This advantage is established and then passed on in the same way all traits are.
Intelligence is a reaction to environmental conditions.
Species that do not need to evolve, because their environments and their viability within them, remain relatively stable, change very little.
Species that are challenged by their environment to adapt or perish reproduce the traits that facilitate this survival and pass them on to future generations.
Thusly a challenging environment will cause a growth in intellect or in some other mutation that overcomes it.

In the case of human beings it is evident that their intellect resulted in a population explosion which forced interspecies pressures.
As a result certain groups dominated and pushed others into less hospitable environments.

The victors remained in their original environments and so had very little reason to evolve further. The vanquished were forced into areas alien and inhospitable to them, forcing an adaptation.
Geography, at that time, was crucual. This geograpgy isolated these groups and prevented interbreeding. This resulted in a long period of genetic isolation.

The challenging environment of the vanquished had a profound effect on their genetic makeup. Their physical adaptation and alterations mirrored a general alteration, since the mind and body dichotomy is a human myth.

Mind/Body are the same phenomena evaluated within a different context.
Thee is no separation or difference. Each is a manifestation of the flux, temporality, and so appearance exposes essence as mind is body and body is mind.

Eventually this divergence, coupled with what Gold describes as ideal conditions, resulted in these vanquished groups to return to their primordial grounds as conquerors.

It would be like a son leaving his father's home, while his brother remains there under the sheltering walls of his homestead.
The prodigal son eventually returns, changed by his experiences away from his father's home to find his brother relatively unchanged.

did you miss the (in science)? Your prognistications are noted and your lack of comprehension in understanding the question, as well as the lack of any scientific evidence in your post wins you my DUH award.

This post also receives the DUH! award of the day

 

[Satyr]

did you miss the (in science)? Your prognistications are noted and your lack of comprehension in understanding the question, as well as the lack of any scientific evidence in your post wins you my DUH award.

This post also receives the DUH! award of the day

i never realized that you were a devout believer in the infallibility of science.

Has science reached some pinnacle of omniscience now?
Do you wish to use this ruse to exclude certain positions?

The mark of a weak mind is its dependence on external authority figures and entities for validation.

 

[shichimenshyo]

making accusations on the basis of racism is never cool

 

[S.A.M.]

i never realized that you were a devout believer in the infallibility of science.

Has science reached some pinnacle of omniscience now?
Do you wish to use this ruse to exclude certain positions?

The mark of a weak mind is its dependence on external authority figures and entities for validation.

Are you proposing your notions of knowledge constitute fact rather than opinion? Based on your subjective perceptions of your pseudoreality? Take it to philosophy then and wax eloquent. In the science forums, one would like some semblance of empirical evidence based reasoning rather than gratuitous racism as a basis for rational deduction. The presence or absence of black swans does not rest on your lack of observational skills.

 

[Count Sudoku]

More social science Jargon, please if blacks are more prone to Violence, why didn't they ever take time to figure out why they are more prone to violence(between me and you I think hispanics are just as violent as blacks).

They have stated why. Just not in that particular article.

Anybody that lives in NY knows that 60% of the murders and hanous crimes in the daily papers are committed by hispanics.

What is relevant is per capita crime.

The number one reason why black people are seemingly unpredictable is because they are relative outsiders. They live in a white man's world- White man's language, white man's culture, white man's technology, white man's economy.

If we are "all the same" why would that matter? Besides, other groups like Vietnamese refugees came here not even knowing the language and they do way better.

If Whites had been the one to read and study in an ancient African language,

There were no ancient written African languages. Egypt BTW was not a black civilization.

they too would struggle to fit in because a lot of these things won't come natural to them. Using the word "minority" in America and the UK isn't helping to curb the violence either. I told you about a story, we had two dogs when I was younger, one was always inside and one was always outside in the yard, the one always outside became aggressive(especially towards the human males) and unpredictable. Its very natural, any organism that feels left out would always become desperate and extreme. As for why things are the way they are, well thats just the way they are, nature makes certain population more dominant than the other.

Don't be "races" about dogs. All dogs are the same. Poodles are just as dangerous as German Sheppards.

 

[Count Sudoku]

Lets see what Watson has overlooked:

1. race is a social construct that does not really exist in biology and

LOL! That's why they can tell the race of someone from a blood sample.

2. IQ tests only measure the ability to take IQ tests (and although correlated to scholastic testing, are not correlated to success or enterprise) and

LOL! That's why the biggest predictor of income, wealth and academic achievement is their IQ.

3. variation in groups is greater than variation between groups in these tests

Like that makes any difference.

4. there is no information on genetic contributions to intelligence

Total nonsense. If that was true, then identical twins wouldn't usually have the same IQ.

5. there is no definition of intelligence in science,

That is total nonsense.

What do you think? Why did Watson overlook this?

Probably because anyone with even a shred of common sense takes the above 5 things for granted.

 

[Satyr]

Are you proposing your notions of knowledge constitute fact rather than opinion?

In that case science is a shared opinion.
<deleted expletive-Sam>

There was a time when the shared, scientific reality, was that of a Newtonian universe.
There wan another time when the communal belief was that fire was spirit.

Based on your subjective perceptions of your pseudoreality?

Is that based on scientific facts or did the monkey-man tell you do say so?

Take it to philosophy then and wax eloquent.

Wait, isn't this an 'intelligent community" with a sub-category names 'General Philosophy'??

In the science forums, one would like some semblance of empirical evidence based reasoning rather than gratuitous racism as a basis for rational deduction.

Are not all deduction, that are rational, based on empirical evidence?
You just prefer the empirical evidence of others because you have no brains to collect it yourself.
You see with others people's eyes, and hear with other people's ears and you think with other people's brains.
You are a classic female.

The presence or absence of black swans does not rest on your lack of observational skills.

What?

Now you have nothing to answer and you resort to falling back on you chosen faith.

And you are an administrator?

 

[Count Sudoku]

But the majority of the scientific community is against this claim as well

That's because professors know they will be denied tenure, grants, promotions and their jobs if they don't toe the PC line.

 

[shichimenshyo]

That's because professors know they will be denied tenure, grants, promotions and their jobs if they don't toe the PC line.

http://skepdic.com/iqrace.html


or you could just try reading some of the stuff thats out there.

 

[Count Sudoku]

All I am saying is that Watson findings should lay hidden...as truth would cause disastrous for the world to handle.

Disastrous for lefties and their social engineering that is.

 

[Satyr]

What we've got here is a typical example of how group dynamics work.

A weakling is given a position of authority, which makes it feel less weak and like ti matters.
It then uses this authority to defend the very premises that ensure its relevance.

Women typically play the role of social filters.
They have the most to lose from any disruption of power balances.

This is also evident in how lionesses join with the dominant male to ward off competitors...but then quickly submit and raise their rumps to the victor.

 

[Satyr]

I have been marked by the scarlet ....card.

The herd rallies in defense of its ignorant bliss.

Cast reality away. Allow us the peace of fantasy.

 

[DeepThought]

Poll results so far demonstrate overwhelming support for Dr Watsons belief that whites are more intelligent than blacks.

*deleted trolling -Sam*

 

[Satyr]

Poll results so far demonstrate overwhelming support for Dr Watsons belief that whites are more intelligent than blacks.

(Respect to Spud Emperor - a black man - who with his vote thoroughly shows up the hypocritical, self-righteous, spineless white liberals on this forum).

What poll?

 

[DeepThought]

What poll?

The one at the top of the thread.

 

[shichimenshyo]

The one at the top of the thread.

yes that poll is fact!