Deadly shooting at US university
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Buffalo Roam
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samcdkey
Liberal psychobabble, these same people, who protect the rights, who have pushed for the release of mentally unstable people from hospitalization, because they have the right to decide their own treatment and if they will take the medication that is needed to stabilize their mental problems.
The other problem is that the report is made with out the ability to identify all of the mentally unstable persons in these nations used in the studies, they don't have the reporting system to do so, and they don't have the facilities to screen the people, so as I have stated this report is Bull Shit.
Liberal psychobabble, these same people, who protect the rights, who have pushed for the release of mentally unstable people from hospitalization, because they have the right to decide their own treatment and if they will take the medication that is needed to stabilize their mental problems.
The other problem is that the report is made with out the ability to identify all of the mentally unstable persons in these nations used in the studies, they don't have the reporting system to do so, and they don't have the facilities to screen the people, so as I have stated this report is Bull Shit.
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Its not the question of report, it is the evidence obtained from a study of 68 patients, more than 60% of whom are working without any drug intervention or support.
Observed results are not psychobabble.
Buffalo Roam
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samcdkey, 68 people in treatment? how about the Thousand of people in these countries that aren't in treatment? Your projecting in your post that all mentally ill are better off in these countries over the U.S. but the vast majority of the mentally ill are never giving the chance to receive treatment, they are chained and hid away, abused, or just plain thrown away because the people don't have the ability to care for them, and as stated by one of the poor from your own country, " If I spend the money for the medical help to save one child, the other 9 will not eat, if I lose one I still have 9 children left".
Buffalo Roam
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samcdkey, but a represenitive sample of people in treatment speaks only to those in treatment, and in those countries that are spoken of only the middle and upper class can afford to seek treatment, it does nothing to address the thousands of poor that in those countries have no access to treatment, between those countries in the studies and America, were do you think there would be the best access to treatment? India or the U.S.
Buffalo Roam
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I read enough to know you are mixing apples and oranges here, I would believe that the article was written to show the success of a treatment program, and make the recommendation to adopt that program here.
The question is still were would you have the best chance of being in treatment? the U.S. 69 beds for 100,000 or India 3 beds for 100,000, and who has more programs in place to help the indigent poor to get that help? the U.S. or India? And the fact that in India you don't even know how big the problem is.
The question is still were would you have the best chance of being in treatment? the U.S. 69 beds for 100,000 or India 3 beds for 100,000, and who has more programs in place to help the indigent poor to get that help? the U.S. or India? And the fact that in India you don't even know how big the problem is.
Buffalo Roam
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samcdkey
Yes, it looks like a good program, but with only a 68 case history study behind it, I would not declare it the the magic bullet for all, a few more studies like maybe a couple thousand, and then you have something,
But what you imply is that you are better off in India if you have a mental health problem, well tell me were you are better off in a country with 69 beds for 100,000 people or a country with 3 bed for 100,000 people? and I have a idea that there is a move on to implement this in our Psychiatric Hospitals, and it should see wide usage, but again were would you want to be with mental problems, India, or the U.S, which has more care capacity? public programs to get you into treatment, India or the U.S. and as stated by Darrel Regier, and it most likly would have been the same for India.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/26/AR2005062601091.html
Yes, it looks like a good program, but with only a 68 case history study behind it, I would not declare it the the magic bullet for all, a few more studies like maybe a couple thousand, and then you have something,
But what you imply is that you are better off in India if you have a mental health problem, well tell me were you are better off in a country with 69 beds for 100,000 people or a country with 3 bed for 100,000 people? and I have a idea that there is a move on to implement this in our Psychiatric Hospitals, and it should see wide usage, but again were would you want to be with mental problems, India, or the U.S, which has more care capacity? public programs to get you into treatment, India or the U.S. and as stated by Darrel Regier, and it most likly would have been the same for India.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/26/AR2005062601091.html
Buffalo Roam
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Sam, why didn't you post the cite from your article that I posted?
Buffalo Roam
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Buffalo Roam
The U.S. 69 bed per 100,000 people, India 3 bed per 100,000 people, Nigeria even less than India, those are the facts, and supported by your posts.
The U.S. 69 bed per 100,000 people, India 3 bed per 100,000 people, Nigeria even less than India, those are the facts, and supported by your posts.
nothing to do with rate of remission.
There are a lot more old people's homes in the US too, but that only means that Americans are unwilling to look after their parents, not that they are taken better care of.
There are a lot more older civilizations, and a lot more other countries, than America who historically are unwilling and incapable of looking after their own -- to the same degree that America has been able to look after its own -- in a much briefer period of time than has been available to y'all.
Sorry if America doesn't meet your demonstrated need for proper instruction.
Not our problem.
Getting fat and stupid is not a national goal in many countries.
neither is it in america sam and you know it.Getting fat and stupid is not a national goal in many countries.
You're becoming a fascist society and no one can even see it, or if they do, are disinclined to resist.
Poor quality has become the norm, from the President to the cheap products flooding the market.
Most people just don't get it.
except you? how is the US becoming a fascist society sam?
i guess you never seen any abortion clinic riots, civil rights riots, anti war riots, etc, etc.
there is a tremendous amount of stuff coming here from china, it's safe to assume a lot of it is reshipped elsewhere.
what is it that most people aren't getting?
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care to address any of the points in the following thread?
http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=65720