Bells
Staff member
Sorry, but I only read books by authors that do not support or endorse genocide on the basis of religious supremacy for the sake of real estate.I suggest you read at least one book on the subject that wasn't written by radical leftists. 10 people repeating the same nonsense from the same primary source doesn't make it more true.
They had a choice to accept an invasion of settlers and being forced off their land under threat of death and the loss of all of their autonomy and human rights? Doesn't sound like much of a choice to me. Does it sound like a choice to you?They had a choice to either accept unrestricted immigration from Jews returning from exile abroad or accept a UN-backed partition that would limit where those Jews could settle. They chose war because they wanted the country to only be a homeland for Arabs and other colonists who joined their fold over the centuries.
Israel never accepted limiting how many Jews could settle. That's why so many Palestinians are still being forced out of their homes by settlers. And you think that's a choice. You'd be okay if a bunch of people came to your house, told you to get out or be killed, because so and so has a religious priority over your house? No, you would not.
You'd choose war too. To suggest they simply move out because white people in Europe and the US wanted their land is absolutely colonialism and the mass slaughter that went with it, shows just how it follows the exact same path as it has in history.
And yet, the world supports the European settlers who did behave like Nazis and continue to do so. Funny that, huh?There were both Jews and Arabs who behaved like Nazis and also Jews and Arabs who didn't. Those who didn't behave in this way don't deserve to be stained by the actions of those who did.
I'm sorry, what?Yes apparently you feel this way since you only seem to care about alleged genocides when there are Jews involved and ignore when the people fighting against Israel commit even bigger massacres than the ones they accuse Israel of. No Jews, no news right?
How many Palestinians have died since the creation of Israel as opposed to Jewish settlers?
Let's consider since the October 7 attacks. Do you think the response is proportionate? Do you think killing tens of thousands of innocent civilians, the majority of whom are women and children, is an acceptable response?
There is no alleging a genocide in Gaza. It is genocide.
All the markers are there.
You should say the same thing about Israel bombing hospitals, people's homes, schools, and refugee camps, no? But you don't. You seem to be justifying and defending it.I repeat, you should stop trying to justify deliberate attacks against civilians where there is no evidence of anything of military value being attacked.
At no time have I justified the October 7 attacks. What I did note is that there is a certain irony in the way in which Hamas' acts were almost identical to what the Zionists forces did to numerous Palestinian villages in 1947 and 1948. Even down to parading the people they had captured and driving them through towns. The Zionists took women and children they had kidnapped and drove them through towns for the settlers to spit on, throw rocks at and abuse in the exact same fashion. A symbolism you cannot seem to grasp. It is a response to what was done to their parents and grandparents. Do you not see this? How can you not see this? I'm not saying it is acceptable. I am pointing out that understanding it and why is important.
Think back and consider why and how Hamas came to exist.October 7 happened because Gaza is run by the same sorts of militant Islamists who declared their intention to commit genocide against Israelis and subsequently attempted this in 1947 and many times since. If they felt that something that allegedly happened during the Nakba justified retaliation, then they could have picked military targets and enjoyed the backing of the Geneva conventions to limit Israel's right to retaliate in kind.
If you lock up millions of people and deny them their fundamental human rights after forcing them from their homes and lands and then locking them up for decades, they will rise up against their occupiers and captors. You think the Nakba was "alleged"? It is well documented. In the same way other genocides and holocausts are documented. You expect a people who had little arms, who had no rights, to pick "military targets" when they couldn't even fight back against the settlers who were taking everything they owned and denied them citizenship and their fundamental human rights? Surely you jest! You're blaming the victims of genocide for what was and continues to be done to them to the point of going down the ridiculous path of denial of history?
Why would they pick military targets? Israel rarely picked military targets in the past and it certainly is not now. It didn't when they committed massacres in villages across Palestinine and it certainly did not when they contravened the Geneva Convention and set up settlements on Palestinian lands.
Hamas are outgunned by a country that has one of the best armed forces and weaponry in the world. They will pick easy targets to make a point.
Israel has never upheld the Geneva Convention and you expect Hamas to? What double standards are you smoking? The very existence of the settlements is against the Geneva Convention. Where those villages were that were attacked? Their very existence were against the Geneva Convention. Gaza and the horrors Palestinians have had to survive for decades, goes against the Geneva Convention.
How can you not understand this? If you wish to bring up the Geneva Convention, then it would behove you to understand what that means for Israel and the millions of settlers who reside there, and certainly what it means for the land they continue to steal. [https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/c...3-israeli-settlements-and-international-law/]