Health Care Bill Debate

John99 said:
i dont know what you are referring to.
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Take my word for it. I never even saw a cop in Germany until I was in an auto accident. In Hannover, NH, you can't go 5 minutes without seeing one, and getting a ticket for something dumb.
 
Mod Note: Buffalo, you're original thread, "Report From North Of The Border" has been merged into the already existing "Canadian Health Care System" thread.

No redundant threads, please.
 
spidergoat said:
Take my word for it. I never even saw a cop in Germany until I was in an auto accident. In Hannover, NH, you can't go 5 minutes without seeing one, and getting a ticket for something dumb.
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probably true. i read in the paper that in one day 14,000+ tickets were issued for driving while on a cell phone. i imagine many will be fought though. that is the problem though, people take advantage of things.
 
Vancouver swamped with immigrants. No mention of that of course. How's Alberta's healthcare doing MADMAN? Stick to what you know, republican American, bullshit.
 
Four days, and I'm a ghost

John99 said:

a rich white kid passing through?
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I wouldn't go so far as to say rich.

But it's true: I spent as little time in those neighborhoods as possible.

I mean, I was even born in Hilltop, but managed to get the hell out of there in about four days.

Now, would it be too much if I asked you to please tie this back to whatever point it was you were trying to make?
 
sg, do you see that (in some ways) one country in Europe is sometimes like looking at a single state in u.s. i think that in u.s more is dependant on the particular area you cite.
 
So, this is a problem with the economy, not with that particular system of health care. In the US, nearly 5 million adults have lost their health care since Sept. 2008.
 
It's certainly true that exercising freedom of speech at a Bush rally wass met with ejection from the event.

That said, the gun toting protesters at the Obama rallys are exercising a right that they have by virtue of the federal Constitution and by permission of State law. The truth is that federal law prohibits them from entering the building in which Obama is while packing, so they are really just possessing guns at the periphery (again, in accordance with their rights).

I am not sure their angst over Obama's potentially curtailing those rights are at all justified (and it seems to me the degree to whoich they are scared of that ois over the top), but I can't get too excited over law abiding citizens bringing their legal firearms outside with them.
 
spidergoat said:
What's even funnier is that you are a beneficiary of socialist health care yourself.
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Really? and you care to prover that?

I am the recipient of my health care by a contractual agreement, for 20 years of service, 24/7/365, in the service of the United States Military.
 
Heh thought Buff was Manant, dunno htf I could have ever made that mistake. Go bitch about Obama or something, leave Canadian problems to Canadians.
 
joepistole said:
Now, now, we are supposed to play nice. A line in the sand has been drawn.

I do not understand how one can legitimately compare Obama to Hitler in any way. Obama restored habeus corpus, made torture illegal again, so how can you call him a tyrant? It simply makes no sense.

Show me some things that Obama has done that Hitler did? I am waiting.
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He's not a tyrant but what better way to be disparaging towards his presidency than to associate him with someone who doesn't love 'freedom'. Its a right wing tactic to place fear in the hearts of Americans who feel uncertain about the state of the nation and who are uncertain of Obama because he is black and having a black president is new. This ridiculous idea that the entire nation is going socialist because of health care reform can only work if the majority of citizens haven't a clue as to what real socialism is. The U.S government provides lot's of services that americans pay for through taxes so why not health care?

And as for the gun totting protestors, I don't believe they were sending a 'we're going to shoot your ass message'. I think they are simply afraid the next step will be taking away the right to bear arms and you know how much of a heated debate it is in the States. I wish they would just pass the bill or not pass the bill so everyone can just get on with it. Its like the elections in the States everything just takes too damn long. If there was ever a time that republicans looked red-necky and backward it is certainly now.
 
Acid Cowboy said:
Open carry is legal and not uncommon in Arizona. Violent hate groups aren't so common. Anywhere.
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This is actually true what you say. With the exception of like Russia and a few ex-soviet states actual hate groups and their agenda are in the minority. Prejudice is another thing entirely.
 
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it is funny because in one state they are debating weather you should be allowed to carry a gun in a bar. but i am sure in many countries they carry guns in pubs.
 
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