Originally posted by zion
That Newton you talk so fondly was classy man.yeah well.but have you ever heard of Leibnitz,Newton stole Leibnitz's calculus to make it his.Leibnitz's ardent supporter was Huygens himself(who also was incharge of Royal society).Consequently Britishers,didnt adopt Leibnitz's advanced calculus's Nth derivative concept and sufferrred.
I don't tend to talk fondly of Newton (I don't know, strange to dislike a dead person I suppose), but anyway I've heard mentions of Leibnitz in calculus classes but mainly I know Leibnitz for philosophy.
You talk abut technologies not existent,how do you explain Dogon tribe knowing about Sirrius B long before western Civilization even knew how to talk about telescopes untill Gal came into pictures
I don't know anything about that, but maybe they had telescopes. Point is, having a telescope makes you neither supernatural nor alien nor inspired by god... no matter how many millennia ago you invent it. The telescope is quite simple, and a culture with a strong interest in the stars would tend to be likely to develop such a thing.
see the purpose of all of this is that usually western culture has found a way to patentize their own discoveries and utilize them and establish their own Monopolies rather than Eastern cultures.
And then both west and east pick on Africa and pretend it wasn't advanced, even though it's the origin of humanity and was once the home of many thriving civilizations.
Well first of all we have a book called Vimanika shastra,in that in Vedic sanskrit they have described the actuall construction of Vimana type Craft.did you read my post correctly?i mentioned steering floor,power generation system.
After all this if you still consider all of this a SciFi and nothing else,well what can i do to convince you i dont know.
See the junk Da Vinci dreamed up. Planes, cars, etc... How is this different? It didn't mean Da Vinci was capable of implementing his ideas himself, without the society around being advanced enough to manufacture such things. His ability to conceive of future inventions, down to the details of how to power such devices, does not in any way imply that he actually created working versions and lived in a society that included all those things. It just means he was a creative guy, and perhaps smarter than anyone currently alive. There's no reason the same couldn't be true of someone thousands of years earlier, at the time of the Vedas.
Originally posted by knguru
The theory we are putting forward is that Vedas are that knowledgebase.
If the civilization didn't lose its knowledge base, since the Vedas are still around, they shouldn't have lost their technology. Generally, I'd think it'd much more common to lose your knowledge base first and technology as a result.
The odds of a civilization having the technology and then losing it without losing the knowledge are very tiny.
The odds of one spot on the planet developing cars, planes, the internet, etc. while the rest didn't for many thousands more years are also very slim.
And that by properly reviewing it we could find out, how advanced the civilization was before its demise.
Let me guess, nuclear war.
If you take a modern textbook in C++ or a 'relational database design' to say only 2000 years back, what do you think the people will decipher?
Considering their age, the Vedas are probably written in Pascal.
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Seriously, languages -- even including computer languages -- are a different issue from tech specifications for constructing a device. If you leave an English language manual with exact specifications for the materials needed and steps involved with the creation of a transporter, and convince all modern people that this is a true technology, then enough people would be at work on it that they'd likely be able to follow the instructions to create such a thing. Certainly if you give us thousands of years.
Consider the case of Machu Picchu stones that are 250 tons in size and precisely cut to fit with other stones on site...high up on the mountain with the thinnest atmosphere to work
As far as atmosphere, people have an amazing ability to adapt when they live that high, given a number of generations. Take modern people in Lima, and you find they have an incredible ability to go casually about work where the rest of us would be gasping for breath.
Anyhow, with your theories, it's worth noting that there is an approximate time limit on "advanced" (meaning similar to now) human technology. To have the division of labor and stable living conditions, cities, etc. needed to create such things, it has to come after agriculture. I don't recall the origin date of agriculture in India, but I would doubt it can be any further back than about 9000 years. Consider that as the starting point from which people could start to build in a stable environment.