Luminiferous Aether Exists!

[gravitational_aether]

Yes, I understand that your idea is that the aether is displaced by a mass.

You don't understand the idea. If you did you would know not to say 'aether is displaced by a mass'. Aether has mass. Aether is displaced by matter.

That still does not seem to answer my questions. It could be that there is something about displaced aether that you are implying and I am missing. Instead of just capitalizing the word displacement you could go just a bit into depth why displaced aether is so important realtive to regular aether.

Here are the questions again.
You have said space is made up of aether. You have also said that the density or concentration of aether is constant. It follows that there should be no halo. If we look at some region of space, according to your idea, it is made up of aether that has mass, as a galaxy passes through that region of space it displaces the aether, however based on what you have said the aether around the galaxy will not change, except that we can call the aether around the galaxy 'displaced'. The density and concentration of the aether has not changed so what is the halo?

The state of displacement of the aether.

Here is the answer again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position."

So, the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field. The only thing which exists in the Universe is the Earth. The Earth is moving through a field which is filled with interconnected balls and springs. There are balls and springs where the Earth will be a year from now. The balls and springs are relatively at rest as the Earth is so far away. When the Earth gets to the balls and springs a year from now the balls and springs will be displaced from their rest position.

A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.

The aether which exists in the center of the Earth is being displaced by the particles of matter the Earth consists of. This aether is more displaced then the aether which is 10 light years away from the Earth. If the only object which existed in the universe were the Earth then the aether 10 light years away from the Earth would be more at rest than the aether connected to and neighboring the particles of matter the Earth consists of.

At rest means not displaced. The more the aether is displaced by particles of matter the less it is at rest.

Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back toward each of the plates which causes the aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates to offset. This aether is more at rest than the aether which is displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the plates to be forced together.

What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same phenomenon as gravity.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

The aether which exists between the Earth and the Moon is displaced by both the Earth and the Moon and is pushing back toward the Earth and toward the Moon. This displaced aether offsets and cancels each other out to some degree. This aether is more at rest than the aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon. The aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the Earth and the Moon and keeps the Moon in orbit about the Earth.

 

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This series of unevidenced proclaimations still does not answer the question.

I will rephrase the question to see if that helps you.

How can the halo of 'displaced aether' around the galaxy be detected as something other than regular 'aether'?

 

[gravitational_aether]

This series of unevidenced proclaimations still does not answer the question.

Are you able to understand the following concept?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position."

Are you able to understand the concept of the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field?

I will rephrase the question to see if that helps you.

How can the halo of 'displaced aether' around the galaxy be detected as something other than regular 'aether'?

'Milky Way's halo more squished than spherical'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3473567...ys-halo-more-squished-spherical/#.TjkpbmDmE2c

"Scientists cannot detect it directly; the only way they know it's there is by measuring its gravitational tug on regular matter."

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter IS gravity.

"Though the mini-galaxies orbit too slowly to watch their movement in real time, astronomers can deduce their velocities by observing how some stars are torn from them by tidal forces, leaving a trace of the galaxy's motion like breadcrumbs along a path."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_tide

"A galactic tide is a tidal force experienced by objects subject to the gravitational field of a galaxy such as the Milky Way."

The gravitational field is the state of displacement of the aether.

 

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'Milky Way's halo more squished than spherical'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3473567...ys-halo-more-squished-spherical/#.TjkpbmDmE2c

"Scientists cannot detect it directly; the only way they know it's there is by measuring its gravitational tug on regular matter."

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter IS gravity.

"Though the mini-galaxies orbit too slowly to watch their movement in real time, astronomers can deduce their velocities by observing how some stars are torn from them by tidal forces, leaving a trace of the galaxy's motion like breadcrumbs along a path."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_tide

"A galactic tide is a tidal force experienced by objects subject to the gravitational field of a galaxy such as the Milky Way."

The gravitational field is the state of displacement of the aether.

You sure do like to make unevidenced proclamations.

So 'displaced aether' IS gravity AND 'displaced aether' is also dark matter?

 

[gravitational_aether]

You sure do like to make unevidenced proclamations.

So 'displaced aether' IS gravity AND 'displaced aether' is also dark matter?

I'll take that as a no, you are incapable of understandng the following concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position."

Are you able to understand the concept of the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field?

'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

"This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

 

[brucep]

You sure do like to make unevidenced proclamations.

So 'displaced aether' IS gravity AND 'displaced aether' is also dark matter?

He's been spewing this nonsense for as long as I can remember over at Google Groups and anywhere else he's allowed to. The 'Stonewall Troll'.

 

[gravitational_aether]

He's been spewing this nonsense for as long as I can remember over at Google Groups and anywhere else he's allowed to. The 'Stonewall Troll'.

‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

“This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a “dark core,” containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. “This result is a puzzle,” said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. “Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it’s not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.”"

The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

The Milky Way's halo is what Einstein referred to as curved spacetime.

The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as displaced aether.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

 

[origin]

He's been spewing this nonsense for as long as I can remember over at Google Groups and anywhere else he's allowed to. The 'Stonewall Troll'.

Yeah I know, I am just a glutton for punishment. No evidence, no logic, no math, just empty proclamations with links to papers he cannot understand. It is kind of fun to watch him make stuff up as he goes along. After awhile it gets old though...

 

[brucep]

I'll take that as a no, you are incapable of understandng the following concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position."

Are you able to understand the concept of the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field?

'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

"This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back an exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

Everything you say is nonsensical rubbish. Nobody can understand why you continue to spew rubbish much less the rubbish you spew. Go ahead and say the same crap again. Saying it over and over without any clarification is insane behavior. You can't answer Origins query other than to say "I'll take that as a no, you are incapable of understandng the following concept." You don't understand the concept. Intellectually you pale in comparison to most insects.

 

[brucep]

Yeah I know, I am just a glutton for punishment. No evidence, no logic, no math, just empty proclamations with links to papers he cannot understand. It is kind of fun to watch him make stuff up as he goes along. After awhile it gets old though...

I think you're great. It pisses us off and that's part of the Troll.

 

[origin]

Intellectually you pale in comparison to most insects.

OK, now that cracked me up!:roflmao:

 

[Aqueous Id]

I'll take that as a no, you are incapable of understandng the following concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position."

Fallacy. You are equating reality with "a simplified view".

Are you able to understand the concept of the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field?

False hypothesis following from the preceding fallacy.

'Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image'
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

"This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a "dark core," containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. "This result is a puzzle," said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. "Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it's not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.""

Fallacy. This has no bearing on aether.

The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

No, false conclusion from the preceding fallacy.

Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

Spurious, not supported by evidence.

Aether has mass.

Impossible, spurious. The 18th century notion , disproven over a hundred years ago by Michelson-Morely.

Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Spurious.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

Spurious, disproven.

 

[brucep]

‘Dark Matter Core Defies Explanation in NASA Hubble Image’
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/mar/HQ_12-068_Hubble_Dark_Core.html

“This technique revealed the dark matter in Abell 520 had collected into a “dark core,” containing far fewer galaxies than would be expected if the dark matter and galaxies were anchored together. Most of the galaxies apparently have sailed far away from the collision. “This result is a puzzle,” said astronomer James Jee of the University of California in Davis, lead author of paper about the results available online in The Astrophysical Journal. “Dark matter is not behaving as predicted, and it’s not obviously clear what is going on. It is difficult to explain this Hubble observation with the current theories of galaxy formation and dark matter.”"

The dark matter core does not defy explanation. The dark matter core is not a puzzle. The dark matter core is not difficult to explain. It is obviously clear what is going on.

Non-baryonic dark matter and galaxies are not anchored together. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

The Milky Way's halo is what Einstein referred to as curved spacetime.

The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as displaced aether.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

Dumb crank assertions don't count. Spewing nonsense in a public science forum is trolling. Nobody has ever agreed with any of the nonsense you've spewed over the years. You're the Stonewall Troll.

 

[gravitational_aether]

Yeah I know, I am just a glutton for punishment. No evidence, no logic, no math, just empty proclamations with links to papers he cannot understand. It is kind of fun to watch him make stuff up as he goes along. After awhile it gets old though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position."

Are you able to understand the concept of the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field?

 

[gravitational_aether]

Everything you say is nonsensical rubbish. Nobody can understand why you continue to spew rubbish much less the rubbish you spew. Go ahead and say the same crap again. Saying it over and over without any clarification is insane behavior. You can't answer Origins query other than to say "I'll take that as a no, you are incapable of understandng the following concept." You don't understand the concept. Intellectually you pale in comparison to most insects.

I'll take that to mean you can't explain what occurs physically in nature in a double slit experiment or what causes gravity.

In a double slit experiment the moving particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

 

[gravitational_aether]

Fallacy. You are equating reality with "a simplified view".


False hypothesis following from the preceding fallacy.


Fallacy. This has no bearing on aether.


No, false conclusion from the preceding fallacy.


Spurious, not supported by evidence.


Impossible, spurious. The 18th century notion , disproven over a hundred years ago by Michelson-Morely.


Spurious.


Spurious, disproven.

"It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics, endowed chair in physics, Stanford University

 

[gravitational_aether]

Dumb crank assertions don't count. Spewing nonsense in a public science forum is trolling. Nobody has ever agreed with any of the nonsense you've spewed over the years. You're the Stonewall Troll.

Why don't you add some value and explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity or the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment? Can't, can you?

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

 

[origin]

Are you able to understand the concept of the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field?

Are able to understand that you are a lost ball in high weeds?

So your aether is gravity AND dark matter AND affects time by it's displacement AND it knows when its been displaced AND it is a super solid AND this super solid puts a force on matter AND it is not matter but has mass AND it is of constant density AND it is more dense forming a halos.......

This is some pretty amazing stuff!!!!

 

[origin]

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In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

This is a solution without a problem...

The wave nature of light completely explains the double slit experiment. Maxwell showed that light is an electro magnetic wave that propegates through space at c, not a particle.

Perhaps you could show the math that would result in the interference pattern from your particle / aether wave through the double slit experiment. I must warn you the math will go beyond long division!

 

[gravitational_aether]

Are able to understand that you are a lost ball in high weeds?

So your aether is gravity AND dark matter AND affects time by it's displacement AND it knows when its been displaced AND it is a super solid AND this super solid puts a force on matter AND it is not matter but has mass AND it is of constant density AND it is more dense forming a halos.......

This is some pretty amazing stuff!!!!

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid. It likely does not have a variable density. The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether. The Milky Way's halo is what Einstein referred to as curved spacetime.

I realize you have no real interest in understanding this. However, if you ever decide not to be so ignorant then you can start by understanding the following.

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position."

Are you able to understand the concept of the further the ball is displaced from its rest position the stronger the field?