Osama Bin Laden is Dead

[Captain Kremmen]

Islamic banking is superior.
http://www.puppet99.com/?p=218

de facto that is true.
The Western style of banking, with a few honourable exceptions, has been proved corrupt.
Like a cancer, even when the major part of it has been excised, and the patient lies weak upon his hospital bed, the disease seeks new growth.
Another thread though.

 

[The Esotericist]

But more importantly why is it that Musharraf himself, who was running Pakistan when Osama Bin laden was supposedly dead and who was in office when Bhutto had that interview saying this:


(Reuters) - Pakistan's former military ruler Pervez Musharraf called Osama bin Laden's death on Monday a "positive step" but criticized the United States for launching the raid on the al Qaeda leader within his country's borders.

Musharraf, who lost power in 2008, told Reuters that Pakistani intelligence ought to have known bin Laden was living near Islamabad. He also said al Qaeda supporters may take revenge against the United States and Pakistan.

Describing the killing as a victory for the people of Pakistan, Musharraf said: "It's a very positive step and it will have positive long-term implications."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-musharraf-idUSTRE7414HA20110502

Please explain why Musharraf accepts that OBL was killed Monday 2011 and not 2002?

Because he knows what TPTB did to Benazir Bhutto, he's a man that knows how to play ball, and doesn't actually give a shit about his country, but is motivated by self-interest. Does he want to end up like her? I'm thinking not. You do what they tell you to do, just like Obama is doing.

Just pieces on the board being moved around. Do you know how to play chess? What's important, the players or the pieces?

 

[CptBork]

Just pieces on the board being moved around. Do you know how to play chess? What's important, the players or the pieces?

Ok then, if you're the grandmaster and know so much about this chess game... what's America's next move? How about their opponents? I like it when people set actual times, events and places so you can laugh at them when it doesn't happen.

 

[The Esotericist]

de facto that is true.
The Western style of banking, with a few honourable exceptions, has been proved corrupt.
Like a cancer, even when the major part of it has been excised, and the patient lies weak upon his hospital bed, the disease seeks new growth.
Another thread though.

Perhaps, but that's the point. The whole reason for the war in Afganistan WAS NOT TERRORISM. It was to root out Islamic banking and replace it with the Rothschild's Empire. Now that is done and the west can leave. The conservative's are resistant, so now TPTB can tell the world that OBL is dead. What better way to release this state secret than to influence the US election and make sure that Obama is reelected after Trump is summarily humiliated?

That's the point.

 

[The Esotericist]

Ok then, if you're the grandmaster and know so much about this chess game... what's America's next move? How about their opponents? I like it when people set actual times, events and places so you can laugh at them when it doesn't happen.

Honestly? I don't know, I don't have all the answers. Especially after the U.S. tightened control of the internet search of information with it's attempted passage of the "internet neutrality act." Now they have done it anyway through administrative fiat.
I once tried to start a thread analyzing how our discussions can only be as good as our information, but it was quickly closed down. For this thread, I had to find alternative search engines to Google to find information. Finding out information about what is going on in alternative western media sources is damn near impossible. If you want to find out what is going on in alternative media sources from BRIC nations? Forget it.

I come here, because there are several level headed members that post great stuff that help me do research and I find out great stuff. Several of them are moderators in fact. But making predictions? Yeah, right. . .

 

[The Esotericist]

Anyone speak Mandarin?

 

[CptBork]

Anyone speak Mandarin?

The evil Powers That Be at Google have a Mandarin translator you should try.

Edit: Oh my God Esotericist, I see your post is marked with the number of the beast!

 

[Repo Man]

I think we need to go easy on them. Freepers are really, really frightened. I can't imagine living in such fear.

And let me be clear. I think firearm advocates live in excessive fear. I think conservatives in general live in excessive fear. But there's no comparison. Freepers tremble and quake in such fear that if you could only bottle it as a perfume, you could sell it to women as a "personal massager".

Okay, that joke took too much effort.

Still, though, I can't imagine being that frightened that much of the time.

You're definitely on to something there.

Authoritarian followers score highly on the Dangerous World scale, and it’s not just because some of the items have a religious context. High RWAs are, in general, more afraid than most people are. They got a “2 for 1 Special Deal” on fear somehow. Maybe they’ve inherited genes that incline them to fret and tremble. Maybe not. But we do know that they were raised by their parents to be afraid of others, because both the parents and their children tell us so.

And, on arguing with such:

You’re not likely to get anywhere arguing with authoritarians. If you won every round of a 15 round heavyweight debate with a Double High leader over history, logic, scientific evidence, the Constitution, you name it, in an auditorium filled with high RWAs, the audience probably would not change its beliefs one tiny bit. Authoritarian followers might even cling to their beliefs more tightly, the wronger they turned out to be. Trying to change highly dogmatic, evidence-immune, groupgripping people in such a setting is like pissing into the wind.

http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

 

[Captain Kremmen]

The whole reason for the war in Afganistan WAS NOT TERRORISM. It was to root out Islamic banking and replace it with the Rothschild's Empire.

OK. Definitely my last post on the subject of banking on this thread, so I will leave the final word to yourself. When you associate the old Rothschild banking family with the current banking mess, I think you are devaluing the worth of traditional banking to world business and progress. Their descendants may well be heavily involved, but traditional banking practise is not the problem.
Traditional banking, as practised by the Rothschild's and others, was based upon finding new markets and investing in them based upon calculated risk.
They provided money to finance commercial activities, but only if they could be convinced that the business would eventually make a profit.
Late 20th Century banking, based on lending money and making a profit whether those businesses succeed or fail, is a totally different and poisonous idea.

 

[Zakariya04]

I think it means he made a google search on those keywords.

oh Gustav must ahve been clowning with me

 

[Pinwheel]

Whoa. Hot Pandora.

I'd love to see her box.

 

[Billy T]

... Islamic banking is superior.
http://www.puppet99.com/?p=218

I agree, as I will soon explain, but that is not why it is growing and taking business from interest charging banks. It is doing that for the simple reason that huge sums of money, mainly payments for oil, but also investment in the growing financial centers and modern cites of the Middle East (site of world's tallest building, for example).

The fundamental reason why Islamic banking is a superior system for making loans is that instead of interest the lender gets (usually) an interest in the project being financed. This makes the lender carefully evaluate the project requesting financing.

In western interest charging financing, the lender (especially if a bank) will normally sell the interest bearing note to Fanny May, if it is mortgage, or to some investors, perhaps even with a totally silly AAA rating by an agency that also did not really do adequate investigation of the project being financed chance's of being economically able to pay back the loan. They just assume, in many cases that the bank did adequately investigate. - That is how the US got billions of "toxic trash" floating around in the financial world, most of which is now carried on the FED's books at unrealistic face value. - I.e. the tax payers will, one way or another, eventually eat the losses.

Still now, with Islamic bank lending it normally holds a piece of the action, although they too are getting creative and finding new ways to shift the risk to someone else. In a decade or so there will be Islamic "toxic trash" also as when the lender sell out his interest instead of holds, he does does not care much if the loan will be repaid.

 

[spidergoat]

Oh, it makes perfect sense.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when we start to practice... insanity. Occam's razor, use it.

 

[ElectricFetus]

Jesus this thread has grown so fast, can anyone summarize it, in summary what conclusions has the sciforum community made about these events?

 

[Gustav]

sam is raining on our parade
a party pooper

 

[Cowboy]

If he turns up in a new video in two months time, Obama is screwed.

I was coming here to post something about that. I normally don't trust politicians, but Obama would be insane to lie about something like this, which is why I believe him. If he did lie, he'd be toast as soon as Bin Laden released a new video talking about current events or something that proved he was still alive.

 

[Zakariya04]

thank you for your response milky

I am not disputing the fact that he wasnt killed and captured blah blah blah. Just baffled as to why he was buried so quick


hello spidey thanks for your response

eerr i actually thought it was 48 hours but thats besides the point..
what i am saying is that they have just killed and captured the guy they have been trying to get for like 10 years + and the biggest name on their most wanted list so why worry about any muslim customs, would they worry about burying him so quick if he didnt claim he was a muslim?!?


hello bells

how r u doing?


As above and as if ol' binlid was worried about islamic customs when he was ordering and planning the mass murder of so many innocent people whether muslim, christian, hindu, jew blah blah blah...

As if any muslim would go oh look how out of order the yanks are cos thye didnt bury the dude quickly...

In the grand scheme of things the burial customs are a bit minor....

And to be honest he wasnt a muslim in my opinion anyway



yes well for a long time now i have been calling for the fall of the US backed, whabbist,house of saud which indeed houses the biggest female prison on earth .... As they are the epicentre of international terrorism

you think???
I doubt many muslims would have given a shit.. espcially the muslim familes of the people he and his organisation killed blah blah blah

this buried at sea within 24 hours just doesnt make sense... somethign just doesnt smell right

Sorry guys but no one really responded to my responses and i am still looking for stimulating debate on this issue

 

[spidergoat]

Of what use is his body? We have DNA, we have death photos which have not been released yet. No country was willing to take the body.

 

[Zakariya04]

its not about the body its about the speed at which it was buried, why did they bury it so quickly
and what about his gazzilionth wife and bazzilionth son or grandson, did they get buried in 24 hours too?!?

 

[spidergoat]

Isn't that Islamic tradition? They do that in Judaism too.