You are indulging in the same type of worldview/mindset, as the ones you call evil.
Should that be a surprise, they are human and capable of making mistakes and I am human and capable of making mistakes.
All institutes are invented.
Do you acknowledge that God was invented by humans?
I mean there are thousands of gods that you would agree are invented I would like to know if you include " your god" as invented.
But the purposes they uphold aren’t.
I don't get it.
How can that be?
Tell me some purpose attached to religion and how it has not been invented..made up etc.
You don’t understand the Bible.
I understand it from the point of view of an Athiest may be the correct way to put it..
which would be objective would it not?
Your first Bible verse example is taken from
Ephesians 5 22-23
"Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Saviour."
Just two verses down you would have encountered this...
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved church, and gave himself for it;
...and three verses down from that you would have encountered this...
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
First..I have told you earlier..I have read the bible..cover to cover..so I know it has good things ... that would be obvious...so obvious I don't know why you present any good things other than to attempt a meaningless mitigation of the fact it really does have the bad things I claim...
You Christian types like an a childish example..try this... what you are doing is like saying..sure Hilter did some bad things but he gave his people an affordable car so therefore we can overlook the fact that he did so many evil things can't we...you don't see that or more to the point will not see that...it's like get a theist cornered with the truth about their cult and the bad things and they come out with..but look at all the charity work..mmm ok given Christians do all that charity work I will just forget the fact they have murdered more humans than any other group...you don't see any problem with the verses because you can't...you can have one hundred thousand good verses but the fact is the bad verses are there..live with it..realise they are bad and realise folk assess things by the failure ...the book is after all gods book can we not expect it to be entirely correct?
Tell me of any book that has just one mistake that does not get taken off the shelves and thrown out...can you imagine a book on engineering containing as many mistakes as the bible being on the list for students at college... but this book of god..the one you could expect to be perfect fails totally.
So let's think about a nice guy who does everything right, good to his family, supportive of friend etc etc but he has a problem..he is very cruel to animals..tell me you would be happy having that guy in your house, tell me you would offer him as a roll model for your kids...are you so screwed in the head by the religious hypocracy that decency is outside your understanding.
The verse ( and there are many) says to disrespect women and that is something that is best called out and taken out...all verses that disrespect women should be taken out...making lame excuses should be seen for what it is..evil..you defend bad things makes you evil..it is just you won't see it.. but that is the truth..evil evil evil...look at yourself in the mirror and ask how you have become evil when you started out wanting to be decent...dencent people will do evil things in the name of their god..want a couple of pages of examples...but why should i bother you are the victim of an evil cult and beyond reason now.
Now if you were really being honest, you would have tried to gain some kind of understanding before blurting out your ignorant opinion.
I understand...and my opinion is informed ..that is why you attack it but you can't not defend my claim that the bible shows disrespect for women and no matter how you twist and turn or avoid...that is wrong...the reason I am so confronting is I tell the truth..you like many people will not have it that I speak only the truth.
It at least calls for discussion.
That was the purpose of this thread and do you notice how the good Christian folk have not read my links or those of Mick...why is that...sure let's discuss it..go ahead..that's what I would like to see.
But you need to read the things that Mick posted and that I posted don't you think..go thru the video of that nice lady and point to her errors if you find them..we can discuss it.. but saying it's all lies is just bullshit.
All I have seen is a mindless defence of the bible that has many references that put down women...and look at you all..let's ignore it..let's not admit anything in there is bad..let's live in our made up bullshit reality.
Its like you are all on drugs..you feel good that is all that matters..you would murder, steal and do whatever you thought you god told you to do..of course you would just like the good christians before you...look at the crusades, and every other session of murder in the name of god, ..burn any witches lately?
But you are ultimately depriving yourself of truth, by believing these dishonest attempts to smear Christianity.
Get real..there are none so blind as those who will not see...
There is so much to smear christianity with one can write a book..in fact many books have been written as the fact is if you wish to smear christianity you have a wealth of material..endless supply of damning material start at the begining and go year by year, go country by country, go victim by victim..look at how bloody Mary re introduced heresy so she could burn people at the stake ..an enjoyable Catholic pastime ...get real Jan...there are so many turds in your pool you could walk across the top...I tell you what you put down one good thing and I will put down five evil things and let's see who runs out of stuff...want to do that?
How would you know if you have not read it...is that the way you handle genuine observation...I suppose my years of experience is all lies also...walk out of that pool full of turds and detox and discover reality.
One thing the research covers I experienced first hand well before I ever saw any research... which is from my personal experience a fact...that ministers etc tell a victim to suck it up ...my very first case a woman hospitalised for a day due to her husband bashing her...I outlined what she could do...her answer which I will never forget was .."father x told me god sends these things to make us strong and to test our faith".... that was the first time.. over time, women, I found if they went to church, were programmed to submit...just my experience..then in the Family Law courts..you read the affidavits of parties out of interest...you read countless stories of treating women insanely badly..so often you would get how it unfolded..we came home from a party and etc etc..I asked the priest and he said..I went to stay at my sisters and the minister said I should forgive and try to get things sorted for the sake of the kids....I can tell you the research is right and you saying it is wrong without even looking goes to show just how drug addicted you are...read the research and stop making lame ignorant excuses for an evil cult.
You can not defend the indefensible.
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