Hi James,
We're going to have cease on these novel-length posts . Apart from that, yours mainly consists of you having discussions with yourself.
Hope that's okay with you
I'm not sure. I was under the impression you thought souls were somehow relevant to the current discussion.
That's because you're an atheist.
You probably think "souls" are a separate idea. Understandable.
If you knew why you think it's nonsense, you could give us reasons.
I'll let you prove that it is nonsense.
Please explain how it occurs?
Also feel free to show the evidences that lead you Acceptance.
Look at what you quoted from me there. See how my first sentence there was "There is evidence for this"?
Your so-called evidence is based on brain size. The bigger the brain, the higher the consciousness. One only has to read up about the African Grey Parrot, an animal with a brain, the size of a walnut, to rebut that.
Okay, I concede that possibly you don't think that all science is driven by an anti-religious bias, but it is clear that you think that this particular scientific idea (emergent consciousness) is driven by an anti-religion bias.
Show evidence from these scientists, that the brain is an emergent property of the brain, rather than simply default to worldview bias. It's that simple.
But, you know, it's easy for you to clear this up if I have made some kind of mistake. You can just confirm clearly for the benefit of your readers that you agree that the idea that consciousness is an emergent feature of brains is not just a device to "keep the divine fo
I can confirm no such thing.
What is it with you? Why do I keep having to remind you that I don't believe there is no God? The fact is, I'm just not convinced there is a God. But I've told you this over and over again. Why do you insist on repeatedly misrepresenting my position on this?
Who mentioned belief?
Is there a God, as far as you're aware?
It's not just with me, either. We've had whole threads in which atheists have patiently explained to you at length the difference between believing that there is no God and lacking the belief that there is a God.
As far as any atheist is aware: Is there a God? Yes or No?
Maybe the whole thing is just too subtle a distinction for you. In light of that, maybe it's time for you to stop telling the atheists here what they ll you tjat. Agree?
I don't tell you what you believe.
I tell you that there is no God as far as any atheist, ever, past, present, and future, is aware.
Now tell me this has nothing to do with the term, atheist? Then explain how.
Of course, in the case of minds, our use of language is not very precise.
Here goes...
To use a loose computer analogy, "I", or equivalently "my mind", is one of the software programmes that runs on the hardware of "my brain". Talking about "my mind" is no different to talking about something like "the PC's operating system". (But perhaps you think that PCs also have souls?)
Utter gobeldigook!
We claim ownership of our bodies and minds. Because we temporarily own them.
And, as I said previously, you could even be right about that. But if you're right, then you should really make an effort to try answering the question I have put to you many times, as to how this soul of yours pulls those strings, exactly. How does that non-physical, immaterial soul influence anything in the physical world (as it must do)? Why do you avoid this question each time it is asked? I know why, of course. It is because you have not even the faintest beginnings of an adequate answer.
Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that I am incapable of explanation. What does that have to do with anything?
Also, I suggest if you seriously want to explore the what the soul is, and how occupies its psition. Go and find out, by reading, listening, and observing.
Jan.