Is this the best discussion forum that you have ever found?

[Dennis Tate]

I've been something of an addict for this type of discussion forums since about 2003....
and I cannot remember being a part of a group where I have gotten such off the scale well informed and insightful replies as I am getting here on Sciforums .

You all have me turning over something of a new leaf in life.....
my habit is to be kind of rude and get myself kicked out quickly.....
because that is easier in so many ways than being booted after developing some friendships......

Even though I have only been here for a weeks or so....
I find that I am actually sitting here and thinking for a minute and asking myself.....
should I post this or not?????
And I often just hit delete... because we Nova Scotian, Canadians we tend to speak or write our minds... with very little filtering.........
but I am changing somewhat since I joined here.....

 

[Jeeves]

It's one of a handful I keep visiting. The climate changes over time - on all boards.
People sign on, get bored, have things happen in their walking life, go away for a while and return, go away and never return; new ones come.
- One way a forum can be ruined entirely is a sudden influx of ignoramuses, or political hard-liners, or yahoos, or religious proselytizers. Sometimes it takes just one determined and prolific fanatic to turn a lot of members off and away.
- Favourite subjects are exhausted and no interesting material comes along to replace them.
- A bad, mad "world leader" grabs the limelight for a few years, generates controversy and speculation, then is brought down and carried offstage, leaving a vacuum in political debate.
- The site changes ownership, policy or moderators, so as to alienate the regulars.
Some just disappear.
I've participated in 2 forums where several of those things happened in a couple of years.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

selfish
territorial/materialist
insular
xenophobic
culturally ignorant
emotionally backwards
Racist/sadistic

when you have an economic system designed to make people compete against each other for the necessities of life it creates people whos core moral & social construction & personality are of the above values system
science has been under sustained attack now for over 20 years

that attack has been flagged as being institutionalized by many different official governments & leaders.

is it any surprise a science forum is fairly quiet.

 

[Seattle]

selfish
territorial/materialist
insular
xenophobic
culturally ignorant
emotionally backwards
Racist/sadistic

when you have an economic system designed to make people compete against each other for the necessities of life it creates people whos core moral & social construction & personality are of the above values system
science has been under sustained attack now for over 20 years

that attack has been flagged as being institutionalized by many different official governments & leaders.

is it any surprise a science forum is fairly quiet.

What do your responses have to do with the question being asked which was "Is this the best discussion forum that you have ever found?"

You list a few words and phrases (as usual) without making them into a complete sentence or thought.

You have listed words and phrases that you generally use to describe the U.S. (in your opinion) but you don't live here so I'm unclear as to why that has anything to do with the question being asked.

Even though it doesn't have anything to do with the question at hand, you seem to have an issue with competition and maybe even a misunderstanding how the necessities of life come about. They don't just appear magically to be handed out. Someone has to produce something and you don't like competition to be involved.

Why is competition an issue in your opinion and what does any of that have to do with the question being asked in this thread?

You are posting so I have to assume that you wish to communicate something.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

What do your responses have to do with the question being asked which was "Is this the best discussion forum that you have ever found?"

You list a few words and phrases (as usual) without making them into a complete sentence or thought.

You have listed words and phrases that you generally use to describe the U.S. (in your opinion) but you don't live here so I'm unclear as to why that has anything to do with the question being asked.

Even though it doesn't have anything to do with the question at hand, you seem to have an issue with competition and maybe even a misunderstanding how the necessities of life come about. They don't just appear magically to be handed out. Someone has to produce something and you don't like competition to be involved.

Why is competition an issue in your opinion and what does any of that have to do with the question being asked in this thread?

You are posting so I have to assume that you wish to communicate something.

your such a whiner
you don't want to discuss anything you just want to whine & play power games
you have attached to a concept of capitalism and stead fast seek to defend it as a personal value
lol
talk about brain washed

you seem to have an issue with competition and maybe even a misunderstanding how the necessities of life come about.

and you wont define it & explain your interpretation
you try & play both sides so you can think you can play the mind games and flip the point

lol
you tell me then
since im soo terribly wrong about everything

flash your intellectual brilliance across the page for all to see
of play pathetic power games trying to play reverse psychology as you did in the other thread

your not doing yourself any favours
your making yourself look like an ass

is that your intention ?

with a whiney splain victim blaming comment on the end gross !

You are posting so I have to assume that you wish to communicate something.

you really roll the red carpet out to try and bring the tone down into a negative diatribe that you think you control
gives you a thrill doesn't it

but sure
you go on and tell me how it all works 1st
as you seem to be asserting ive got it wrong

 

[Seattle]

your such a whiner
you don't want to discuss anything you just want to whine & play power games
you have attached to a concept of capitalism and stead fast seek to defend it as a personal value
lol
talk about brain washed

It's "you're" rather than "your". It's "steadfast" not "stead fast".
Why post if you can't deal with any reply?

and you wont define it & explain your interpretation
you try & play both sides so you can think you can play the mind games and flip the point

lol
you tell me then
since im soo terribly wrong about everything

flash your intellectual brilliance across the page for all to see
of play pathetic power games trying to play reverse psychology as you did in the other thread

your not doing yourself any favours
your making yourself look like an ass

is that your intention ?

with a whiney splain victim blaming comment on the end gross !


you really roll the red carpet out to try and bring the tone down into a negative diatribe that you think you control
gives you a thrill doesn't it

but sure
you go on and tell me how it all works 1st
as you seem to be asserting ive got it wrong

It's "won't" and not "wont". It's "so" and not "soo".

You are asking me to explain "how it all works" but the question was "Is this the best discussion forum that you've ever found?".

What does me explaining "how it all works" have to do with the topic?

If you are referring to capitalism for me to tell you how you've "got it wrong" you would have to first say something about how you think it works beyond your usual posting of disjointed words and phrases.

What is it that you don't like about capitalism and what is it that you've found to work better? What is it about competition that you dislike? Do you feel that you can't compete? Is that the problem? Is that why, in your words, you are "poor"?

In what system wouldn't you be poor?

Why are we discussing capitalism when the topic is this discussion forum?

 

[foghorn]

because we Nova Scotian, Canadians we tend to speak or write our minds... with very little filtering.........

And, I'm guessing you all speak common sense there too? Were any of your ancestors from Yorkshire, England?

 

[Jeeves]

A little 'filtering' of mind-content before it passes through the fingers is no terrible thing. At least it's less lumpy!

 

[Dennis Tate]

And, I'm guessing you all speak common sense there too? Were any of your ancestors from Yorkshire, England?

I would like to think so.... but of course we are all biased toward ideas that we heard for decades........

A little 'filtering' of mind-content before it passes through the fingers is no terrible thing. At least it's less lumpy!

Good point......
it is worth the effort to do some filtering!

 

[Jeeves]

it is worth the effort to do some filtering!

Or take your lumps - as it were.

 

[foghorn]

I would like to think so.... but of course we are all biased toward ideas that we heard for decades........

There are ideas and there are ideas, the best ones stick around if they pass the continuous testing, so to speak.

 

[river]

There are ideas and there are ideas, the best ones stick around if they pass the continuous testing, so to speak.

Indeed .

 

[Dennis Tate]

There are ideas and there are ideas, the best ones stick around if they pass the continuous testing, so to speak.

Once a more Theistic Evolutionary Theory catches on......
it will be here to stay!

 

[foghorn]

Once a more Theistic Evolutionary Theory catches on......
it will be here to stay!

And, the starting point of your idea is ''God did it''

 

[wegs]

I've liked this site because the threads are topic driven. Some forums tend to mirror Facebook and the like, and nothing can kill a forum faster than that, imo. I used to frequent a running site and over time, it eroded into little more than mud slinging matches, personal attacks and political memes. (very little running being discussed, on top of that) No thanks! It's no longer active, now.

Now, personal attacks happen on here to be clear, but there are forum rules that we have to follow and most threads stick on topic.

 

[Dennis Tate]

And, the starting point of your idea is ''God did it''

Yes..... but my belief is that "God" is a Being composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy who
is first and foremost a scientist and inventor......
who step by step by step by step learned and got better and better at creating other life forms.....
over infinite time in the past.

This fits with The Cyclic Model of the Universe and chapter thirteen of Stephen Hawking's Universe entitled The Anthropic Principle.

Dr. Hawking explained an Atheistic / Agnostic version of the Cyclic Model in that chapter but......
Intelligence originating in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy as explained by basic String Theory.....
answers many troubling questions.

"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"

The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....

"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."...

"The real burden in the next three centuries will not be the development of fancy mathematics, but the experimental testing of these ambitious theories. All current thinking about total unification assumes that the effects of linking all the forces and particles together will only become manifest at energies that are some trillion times greater than those currently attainable in particle accelerators. Probably we shall never reach such energies directly" ( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)​

 

[Dennis Tate]

I've liked this site because the threads are topic driven. Some forums tend to mirror Facebook and the like, and nothing can kill a forum faster than that, imo. I used to frequent a running site and over time, it eroded into little more than mud slinging matches, personal attacks and political memes. (very little running being discussed, on top of that) No thanks! It's no longer active, now.

Now, personal attacks happen on here to be clear, but there are forum rules that we have to follow and most threads stick on topic.

Yes...... I got a bit of a slap on the fingers for typing the link to my Chaim Tejman M. D. , discussion too often.....
I took that as a good sign though.....
rules are needed!

 

[wegs]

Yes...... I got a bit of a slap on the fingers for typing the link to my Chaim Tejman M. D. , discussion too often.....
I took that as a good sign though.....
rules are needed!

Yea, if it seems “spammy,” then it’s best to not post it.

 

[Seattle]

Yes..... but my belief is that "God" is a Being composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy who
is first and foremost a scientist and inventor......
who step by step by step by step learned and got better and better at creating other life forms.....
over infinite time in the past.

This fits with The Cyclic Model of the Universe and chapter thirteen of Stephen Hawking's Universe entitled The Anthropic Principle.

Dr. Hawking explained an Atheistic / Agnostic version of the Cyclic Model in that chapter but......
Intelligence originating in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy as explained by basic String Theory.....
answers many troubling questions.

What is "fundamental or nearly fundamental energy"? There is no "pure energy" apart from something else.

 

[Michael 345]

.......composed......energy

You do understand energy is not stuff right?

You cannot compose (make something) of energy

Me thinks you are in the realm of

An intangible, modifiable force (often characterized as either 'positive' or 'negative') believed in some New Age religions to emanate from a person, place or thing and which is (or can be) preserved and transferred in human interactions; shared mood or group habit; a vibe, a feeling, an impression. (Compare aura.)

My highlight - Definition Number 4 from English app dictionary