Is faith a reliable path to knowledge?

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by James R, Jul 23, 2015.

  1. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    This is interesting because even "evidence based" faith can be shown to be false knowledge, in a way. For example, the sun will come up tomorrow, but eventually the sun will burn out, engulf the earth and there will be no more sunrises. Your mom may eventually get Dementia or Alzheimers and completely forget who you are. This would show that only evidence based reasoning is valid, that even evidence-based faith is not.
     
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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I agree.
    This would show that only evidence itself is reliable information. Everything else is probabilistic at best.
     
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  5. Marathon-man Registered Member

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    Of all the major faiths (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Jainism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Taoism and even Confucianism) I found that Buddhism is the most logical approach to the world and Man. It is highly organized. For instance, the Kalama Sutra is a treaty on how to think in order to avoid the pitfalls of dogma. Quoting a section of it:
    "Do not blindly believe religious teachings, he tells the Kalamas, just because they are claimed to be true, or even through the application of various methods or techniques. Direct knowledge grounded in one's own experience can be called upon"
    The Kalama Sutta states (Pali expression in parentheses):
    Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated hearing (anussava),
    nor upon tradition (paramparā),
    nor upon rumor (itikirā),
    nor upon what is in a scripture (piṭaka-sampadāna)
    nor upon surmise (takka-hetu),
    nor upon an axiom (naya-hetu),
    nor upon specious reasoning (ākāra-parivitakka),
    nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered over (diṭṭhi-nijjhān-akkh-antiyā),
    nor upon another's seeming ability (bhabba-rūpatāya),
    nor upon the consideration, The monk is our teacher (samaṇo no garū)
    Kalamas, when you yourselves know: "These things are good; these things are not blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness," enter on and abide in them.'

    Secondly, Buddhism does not acknowledge or deny the existence of an external God but attempts to realize the "God" within Man. It is the Eastern version of Greek Humanism but at a much deeper level. It seeks to "awaken" the unconscious mind and the dormant spirit into a mind of a "Superman'. To understand man's state of mind the Lotus is used.
    -The roots embedded in mud - is the world we live. Our "reality is constrained.
    -The stem of the Lotus. rising through the water- is the mind under meditation striving to awaken the subconscious.
    -The blossom that opens up and faces the sun - Is Nirvana when the mind awakens to the reality.
    the difference of the roots in mud to that of the blossom facing the sun is the difference of our reality to that of Nirvana.
    PS: I am Catholic.
     
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