What is reality ?

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Even though we can trace our cosmic history all the way back to the earliest stages of the hot Big Bang, that isn’t enough to answer the question of how (or if) time began. Going even earlier, to the end-stages of cosmic inflation, we can learn how the Big Bang was set up and began, but we have no observable information about what occurred prior to that. The final fraction-of-a-second of inflation is where our knowledge ends.

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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Not one word of which either answers my questions nor indicates (let alone "proves") that time doesn't exist.
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    My claim = TIME does not exist

    You seem to believe TIME does exist

    Unfortunately for me it appears that non existent TIME does not have properties

    So I am unable to provide non existent properties to prove non existent TIME is indeed non existent

    Ummmm I wonder why that is?

    However if TIME does exist it would have properties

    Care to oblige?

    What properties does length have?

    Specifically? NONE

    Believe otherwise?

    Ditto as per TIME

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  7. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Was not directed to you

    Just happened to be something I was reading and I added the link for its information value

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  8. Mark Turner Banned Banned

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    Well there is three reasons that time doesn't exist

    1. No physicality
    2. Unaltered space
    3. A human construct to record age

    Your might be half way close to understanding this .
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I understood that.
    And in similar vein I asked you what properties length has. And breadth and depth. You haven't given any.
    So I assume therefore that you also claim that none of those exist either.
    And again: what properties does length/ breadth/ depth have?
    What sort of properties should time have to exist (in your opinion)?
    Now we're getting somewhere.
    So space etc. doesn't exist either. And therefore nothing at all can exist.
     
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  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    What "physicality" does length have?
    I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
    Nor this.
    You certainly aren't.
     
  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Specifically NONE

    Slight of hand redirection but depending on definition
    A TOTAL VOID WITH NO CONTENT DOES NOT EXIST

    What is normally considered as space ie the low vacuum between say here and the moon does contain a few atoms of existing stuff

    However even with this stuff removed the space contains virtual particles which flit in and out of existence and cannot be removed

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  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    NONE

    It is a concept

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  14. Mark Turner Banned Banned

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    Length is a measure of a distance , time hasn't got a length unless you was to imagine it had.
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    By your "reasoning" there can't be any void. Nor any content.
    Since, according to you, length doesn't exist then that must be false. There can't be any space between Earth and Moon.
    Given that (according to you) length (and breadth and depth) don't exist the space cannot either.
     
  16. Mark Turner Banned Banned

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    True , a measure is just our way to quantify things . The thing we are measuring has physical properties but the measure itself is just relative to us .
     
  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    If - as per prior arguments - length doesn't exist then distance cannot do so.
    If you have to resort to inane sentences then you're not going to get far.
    The fact that I typed this post AFTER reading yours is an indication that time exists.
     
  18. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    False.
    If length doesn't exist then there'd be nothing to measure.
     
  19. Mark Turner Banned Banned

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    Omg , we measure the space between objects and call the measure a length . If we don't measure it the space still remains .
    A length is our linguistics we use to understand the process of the measure .A length exists as a descriptive word , likewise time .
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    One more time: if length (the dimension) doesn't exist then there can be no separation (either between objects or of faces/ edges of objects).
    If length as a dimension doesn't exist then there can be NO distance.
    If there's no distance then everything occurs/ exists at a point.
     
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    No , one more time , a length is the term we use to identify the measure of a distance . Your confusion is the question difference of , what properties are within the measured length .
    This is really basic linguistics and science , you're trying to invent and imply a length as being a physical thing itself . That is simply not true , a length is the measure of a physical thing .
     
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  22. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    So if

    The thing we are measuring has physical properties but the measure itself is just relative to us

    then what are the properties of this measure

    None of your post contain ANY properties of any stuff you claim exist

    Please provide at least one property of any something you claim exist

    You did ask in one of your post what properties do I think TIME should have

    Your joking right?

    But in the spirit of humouring you I submit the following list

    Visual - none
    Audio - none
    Frequency - none
    Mass - none
    Position on the periodic table - none
    Position in the electromagnetic spectrum - none
    Detectability - none
    All those properties I have missed - none of those either

    Feel free to pick any and replace the none word with what you consider to be a property

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  23. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong. Length is a dimension.
    Equally wrong. There is no confusion on my part.
    If it really is basic then you should be able to understand it. Then again, I'm not surprised because your comprehension of both of those has previously been shown to be severely lacking.
    Really?
    "Length" is a basic dimension in physics, in fact it's a fundamental.
    Nope.
    Length - as a dimension - is the extent between (or along) objects.
    If you deny length as a dimension then there can be no spacial extension - i.e. everything is a single point.
    If you deny time as a dimension then everything is happening now. (I.e. me going to sleep last night occurs simultaneously with with me being born and me dying - the fact that this isn't true should give you a slight clue).
     

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