You've already said that. Try looking at my reply:
Are you suggesting we should treat obstinacy and wilful ignorance with respect?
How about you obey the rules? If I'm expected to obey the rules, then it only follows that everyone else should be required to as well. Furthermore, perhaps if you didn't make unsupported assertions, while expecting others to support their claims your opponents wouldn't be as 'obstinate'. Ergo. Correct your own shitty behaviour before expecting those around you to change. You aren't nearly as clever as you think, you're actually just another run of the mill veteran poster who thinks highly of themselves while knowing fuck all about arguing in a logical and coherent fashion.
How far is that going to advance a discussion? What sort of message is that going to send?
It might send the message that you actually appreciate someone discussing the issue with you and are not out to correct their 'defective' brain processes, which in turn might make the opponent less 'obstinate' and more open to what you have to say. Oh the horror! Much better to treat the black sheep with disrespect, put them through a ban cycle which results in a downward spirals, and create grudges which last the remainder of their membership.
Perhaps you misunderstood me: if the "other participant" is unprepared to actually learn, or even attempt to do so how far is rational discourse going to get?
What you really mean is: What if the 'other participant' won't mindlessly swallow everything I say while verbally abusing them? Waa waa waa! Intellectual dishonesty!
And you don't consider intellectual dishonesty (or even outright dishonesty) to be disrespectful?
Ya know, the mods and veteran posters continually throw out the phrase 'intellectual dishonesty', without ever giving a clear definition. I must conclude that it is nothing more than a buzz word to demonise posters who go against the grain, therefore giving the moderators and 'in' posters the green light to harass them.
Several goals: it vents my frustration and hopefully goads the recipient into doing something about their ignorance. On the other hand, since I consider a refusal to actually learn anything to be disrespectful, maybe I'm simply retaliating.
Ahh, so it's 'intellectually honest' to goad people into doing something they might regret. Wait, who is the troll again?
Jesus Christ, the moderators on this forum *suck ass*. Can we please, please, please have them all summarily demoted and replaced with individuals who know how to deal with customers with some respect?
