Poetry Arena

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  1. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    it is actually considered a very bad thing in poetry to add non-meaningful lines just to get the rhymes right. better no rhyming, but clear subject.
     
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  3. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    graveyard - the visit
    - - - - - - - - - - -
    one of the headstones looks familiar enough
    it looks like the one i had, plastic flowers and all
    maybe my life had been tough
    but nothing compared to my death, last fall

    how can a living person be colder than dead?
    why my rage burns like a thousand suns?
    since my death, i haven't been myself
    i'll just replace those flowers with real ones.


    ------------------------------------------------

    as i'm looking the half-eaten apple, somewhat rotten
    i ponder my life forgotten
    suddenly i notice a worm in there
    life can be rotten, but i think i care.




    (i really need some sleep now...

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  5. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    yes.... but that "to avoid....." poem was BAD poetry.
    i think it's only good thing in poetry like that.
    better to add meaningless rhyming lines, than empty line...


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  7. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    wrote this today. at 5am. say your critique



    [the very same place]

    Three roses on the rock-
    two for the blood, one for the peace.*

    And at the very place you were shot and bled to death,
    I stay and ask my reason- why?

    You saved my life,
    and I remember your smile-
    you had come in time-
    I remember when recall those times.

    And the next time I hear
    about you, my friend,
    they've found you dead
    by the canal, bloody and pale.

    I paid my share,
    but you lost your life.

    There is no god,
    there's only blood.


    *our flag is-> dark red-white-dark red
     
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  8. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you for reactivating this thread!
    It's nice, but it's hard to get what you are saying with so many androgenous phrases.

    This one is quite good. Especially the play with the flag- however, you may want to add something in the beginning actually hinting at where you're at- that will give people something to look up (which is always good in a poem) but it won't confuse them.

    Maybe you should combine these into one strophe- it feels very disconnected. I also thknk the 2nd line here is a bit cliche.

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    Take out out the 2nd remember, since it's a bit redundant with the 'recall' right there. Also, I don't think hyphens should be used here.
    You saved my life
    and I remember your smile.
    You came in time,
    and I recall those times.


    This is exactly what you want. Perfect.

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    Maybe you should combine these too? I think these really need to be in the same strophe.

    In all, this could have a really nice flow if it was just tightened up a little more. I'm getting that the mesaage is someone shot dead by nationalism, but you could do more to bring that out. Without an actual reference to a nation, the natioanlism is lost on me and might as well just be about death.

    Thanks for the read.
    -Jono





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  9. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    Serial Mom

    Here's one of mine-

    Serial Mom
    The sky is the flowering
    sugar from a cosmic scratch,
    bruised blue and mighty.

    Her thighs find a warm wanting,
    straining the milk of magnesia
    through a spiny colander.

    Skin trays, served hot and venting
    drawn out from her chuckling stove
    potbelly, blast furnace, melting iron.

    She grabs a clump of disorderly crepes,
    hands slipping off the western belly
    just south of her bosom,
    dislodging her plump vengeance
    to choke, draw closed, and kill.

    As she piles on the slackened red meat,
    She drowns in the small dew
    of distilled malt whiskey
    laced with last morning’s waste-water.

    Into her nighties: she puts a single thread
    through the negligent shell of a greedy ship.
    She has a new boat in
    her stomach, the latest arrival.

    Through the paraffin gates,
    welcomed into the seedy underbelly of
    the old, grizzled pig,
    lies the mouth of this
    masochistic intake valve,
    yawning with the glazed horror,
    that she might just throw it all up.
     
  10. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you very much for your assistance.
    You were right about that cliche.
    It is the hardest for me- know what are the cliches in english.

    how is it now?

    while you read, I'll look more eeply through your masterpiece. But I don't think I could help you much, english isn't my native tongue.

    oh and your poem is not bad at all

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    maybe you should try
    www.everypoet.com/pffa.htm
    choose the poetry free for all forum. (if you are one of the mods there already- sorry

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    ) Many poets are learing there and have quite a good critique from experienced poets. I'm not hanging out there often , because I have little time for poetry.



    Twelve years have passed,
    from that cold January in Riga.
    You saw your breath ,
    and bullets in the air.

    We all stood in a chain of song for freedom,
    and saw the back berrets approach our barricades.
    Three strategic buildings remained,
    our future was locked in them.

    Twelve years-
    and people forget,
    though to me,
    we fought only yesterday.

    Three roses on the rock-*
    two for the blood, one for the peace.
    And at the very place you were shot and bled to death,
    The pool of blood still is filling through my mind.

    You saved my life,
    and I remember your smile-
    you came in time-
    and I recall those times.

    And the next time I hear
    about you, my friend,
    they've found you dead
    by the canal, bloody and pale.

    I paid my share,
    but you lost your life.
    There is no god,
    there's only blood.
     
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  11. Dragon Stone Registered Senior Member

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    I'm completely patheic compared to you people! And this is certainly NOT my best poetry. I don't feel like finding my other stuff. So I'm just gonna post this.

    Until Death Do We Part

    He didn’t care when he stepped out coatless that cold winter night.
    Nothing was real to him, nothing was right.

    He hid the pistol under his shirt,
    mumbling wicked words foul-mouthed and curt.

    But she was the one who left him at the door.
    “Til’ death do you part,” was the vow that she swore.

    But, no, she said I don’t love you no more.
    Can’t be with you, can’t stand you no more!

    So he made a pack with the devil that night,
    and swore to his gun, “She’ll pay with her life.”

    So he smiled insanely at her blood on his hands.
    He laughed at the cops and happily said, “If I can’t have her, then nobody can.”
     
  12. Shadowstrife911 Hail the Shredder! Registered Senior Member

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    ODE TO SPOT!

    ODE TO SPOT

    Felis Catus, is your taxonomic nomenclature:
    An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature.
    Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
    Contribute to your hunting skills, and natural defenses.

    I find myself intrigued by your sub-vocal oscillations,
    A singular development of cat communications
    That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
    For a rhythmic stroking of your fur, to demonstrate affection.

    A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents.
    You would not be so agile, if you lacked its counterbalance.
    And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion
    It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

    Oh, spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
    Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array;
    And though you are not sentient , Spot, and do not comprehend
    I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.



    While I didn't write this, maybe you can guess where its from.
     
  13. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    pixi, pixi,
    where is my sis?
    there's noone here,
    but just me.

    but that's ok,
    I'm used to it;
    extasy and passion,
    through trance and winamp.

    hologhaphic interaction,
    of enigmatic music,
    making simulated environment,
    in my own brain.

    my world - I wish it was real-
    mythical forest in another reality,
    of our memories long forgotten,
    and dreams of tomorrow.

    I could die just from the need,
    to experience that reality,
    my passion and lonnging burns me to decease,
    oh pixi, how do I get in there?!

    (was bored and not even my sis was on the messenger,
    spontaniously written)
     
  14. %BlueSoulRobot% Copyright! Copyright!! Registered Senior Member

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    "S-U-C-C-E-S-S
    That's the way you spell success!"

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    All right all right

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    "There once was a man from Nantucket...Oh, I can't tell that one here!"

    lol! Ok, enough bad poems!

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    Aight, here's the world's crappiest poem. I can't believe it won second place, it's so boring

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    The beach at sunset
    - %BlueSoulRobot%

    Seashells sparkling with ebbing tide
    scattered all along the coast.
    Faint footprints visible as they wash away
    with the ocean, cleansing the beach of
    any distractions.
    Lavender, crimson, passion-colored sky
    blaze up overhead, in a fervent and fierce statement.
    Soft pure sands stretch
    beyond the eye’s view,
    going on into infinity.
    Golden waves lap at the shore, preening
    the quiet slopes with a curious delicacy.
    Smooth black pebbles dot here
    and there,
    glinting under the brilliant heavens,
    like the ebony shimmer of slick seals.
    Rich dark emerald strands of sea-stained kelp
    lie in a silvery wake.
    A simple child,
    bucket and pail ready by hand,
    marvels in the calm beauty
    Of the beach at sunset.

    (Here's one that I like better!)
    <center>Take a Step, Fall a Mile
    - %BlueSoulRobot%

    Steps up the crooked ladder
    End of the infinite rope

    Lives left to crumble
    Decadence resembling the stone face of the
    Weeping angel

    Tragic poets lament of lost souls
    Wandering through twisted jungles
    Caught in a magnificent rage of violent indigo

    Blinding obscurity

    Fear gnawing relentlessly

    Dissolving the spine of intuition
    Only to be replaced with the heart of indecision

    Bewildered and vulnerable, helpless
    Raucous laughter rains and drenches the grievous slaves
    Masters of loneliness and deceit

    Intervention without cause
    Adrift in a sea of tears

    Chaotic nightmares wreak havoc on the shattered mind
    Stumbling, overlooked, and forgotten

    Belief, salvation, repentance:
    A fiction of the savage conscience;

    Corruption, failure, lies:
    Chicken soup for the damned.</center>
     
  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    this is not mine , but oooooooooh soo BEAUTIFUL

    by Inkubus Sukkubus

    Your heart burns for love
    My soul burns for blood
    I’ll take you, I’ll break you
    I’ll crush you, I’ll break you
    If you want me, I’ll need you
    I’ll kill you, feed from you
    I’ll take you down that road
    That leads to destruction
    Come and take a walk with me
    Where the angels fear to tread
    Kiss the flame, feel the pain
    In the furnace of our love
    I can’t feed my hunger
    Your youth makes me younger
    I’ll hurt you, desert you
    Turn your dreams to nightmares
    I’ll cheat you, I’ll eat you
    I’ll maim you, I’ll drain you
    Come to me, come to me
    To the dark side where love sleeps
    I’ll hurt you, you’ll love me
    I’ll scratch you, I’ll cut you
    You’ll kiss me, then miss me
    I’ll laugh at your torment
    I’ll have you, and own you
    Be hard and cold to you
    I’ll be your dark angel
    I’ll be your worst nightmare
     
  16. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Jesus christ, that's fucking beautiful, Avatar.

    Okay, here's a haiku:

    Ephemeral fireflies
    Imitate ancient stars
    Who lasts longer?
     
  17. Zero Banned Banned

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    Silver Pearls, Silver Rain

    The moon quietly weeps and melts the melancholy sky
    Its tears dance across the night
    I raise my head, flex my wings, smile with my beak
    Soar off once more into the warm, black robes of veiled oblivion
    I take the moon into my embrace
    And suckle it with my sorrow

    The crystal castle of my heart
    With a last scented melody, given by a goddess
    Shatters, planting broken glass
    Through the night of my being
    I feel the glass
    Burning bright and cold
    They form radiant constellations adorning my soul

    It will be more beautiful
    With such hard won jewels
    But I weep with their weight
    The unbearably sweet pain of birth sears my heart
    It whispers to me
    The birth of morning

    The sky sheds blood
    Grows dark, becomes dead
    It grows brighter, giving birth to morning
    My soul will live anew
    Singing with the flocks of stars
    Swimming above the constellations
    Of silver pearls, silver rain.
     
  18. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    another nice one....I just love their lyrics

    [Inkubus Sukkubus "Nymphomania"]

    Eyes of Love and Eyes of Fire
    Hearts of Lust and Desire
    Dancing, jumping, laughing, raving
    Driven by a sexual craving
    Here they come with love and flowers
    With their songs and their dark powers
    Bodies naked, hot and writhing
    Belladonna wine embibing
    Here they come datura dreaming
    Out their minds in madness screaming
    Wild spirits from the dreamworld
    Nature spirits from the dreamworld
    With the Nymphs you are free
    In the fire of ecstasy
    In a dream of sexual love
    In Hell below and Heaven above
    Boy meets nymph the sacred story
    Told again for all it's glory
    She's so wild, he can't tame her
    Sex and drugs, who can blame her
    He's the fingers, she's the matches
    She's the fire, he'll be the ashes
    He is hers for the taking
    Love is hers for the faking
    Forget the future come and kiss
    On the Poison Lips of Bliss
    Let them sing you to your death
    Let them sing you to your death

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    Author: Inkubus Sukkubus
    Song: Away With The Faeries
    Added by: Webmaster
    Date: 2002-01-18 21:28:32

    Come and lay down in the meadow
    Rest your head amongst the flowers
    Come and sip the sacred poison
    Fly away on the wings of madness
    And they were once known as angels from the sky and heaven
    But now they are known as devils, demons, alien monsters
    Chariot of psilocybe
    Take me up to ride the lightning
    Can you hear their feet a’dancing
    Can you hear their voices singing?
    And they were once known as angels from the sky and heaven
    But now they are known as devils, demons, alien monsters
    Let them fill your dreams with wonder, fever, pain and passion
    Let them fill your head with thunder
    On a toadstool painted scarlet
    Sits a queen, a faery harlot
    She will lead if you will follow
    Down the road that leads to sorrow
    From the Dreamworld she is calling
    Come to me, come running, falling
    Come and sip the sacred poison
    Come and sip my sacred poison



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    this is for all you- christianity "admirers"

    Inkubus Sukkubus "Church Of Madness"


    Here come the Christian knights
    Dressed in red and white
    To bring the Holy Word and set the world alight
    Here comes a plague of idiots blinded by their faith
    Here comes the Inquisition to burn you at the stake
    Here comes the Church of Madness
    Bearing gifts of death and torture
    Here comes the Church of Madness
    Of Jesus Christ their Lord
    The fire and the fury
    To be our judge to be our jury
    Here comes the Church of Madness
    Of Jesus Christ their Lord
    A new dark age descending, it’s Torquemada’s dream
    Liberty lies raped, crushed, broken
    Neath the Christian war machine
    Nation after nation falling
    In the shadow of the Christian sword
    With death they bring the lore of love
    What do they tell the people of their old crusades?
    Of the women and the children
    Impaled on Christian blades
    Rejoice they say for we are saved
    And we must sing the fight
    Sing it till your lungs burst or they’ll set you alight!
     
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  19. Zero Banned Banned

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    Avatar, the poem 'that is not yours' is way too mushy to be a nice peom. Really beautiful ones are hard to come by. And atheist though I am, "a group of idiots blinded by their faith" is not an appropriate poetic image.

    Just my humble opinion. The one I posted I wrote myself, I doubt if I can get anything like it up again. I will delete this post as soon as you get the point.
     
  20. %BlueSoulRobot% Copyright! Copyright!! Registered Senior Member

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    Another one, by me:

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    Bottle Shards

    I smile.

    So faint, so sweet
    Like the soft breath of a baby;
    I scream.
    So heart breaking
    It is covered by my wails.
    So alarming.
    They are covered by my inner torment;
    So intense
    It is lost in the suffocating tunnels of my mind:
    I’m lost.

    I smash into the choking walls
    Surrounding me, the heavy slams are covered.

    By my smile.
     
  21. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    may be, but it's a stron image...I like strong poems
     
  22. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    What to say- one giant cliche. This is abstract, trite, and pretentious, along with the fact that the subject matter is a basic no-no in any poetry- the whole 'look at me! I feel bad! I'm alone! I'm lost!' complex.

    Think- in L4- you use the word 'heartbreaking' then 'covered by my wails'. Whatever connection you trying to make there was killed by the fact that being heartbreaking carries no extra precedent that it mst be covered by wails, or even that it usually isn't. You merely put heartbreaking in there because it was the easiest word choice. But a poem is art, not a diary entry.

    You have the format and the drive- but not the courage- to make some great poems. This:
    -is closer to that kind of poetry.

    Now here's my latest- my account got frozen at PFFA due to inactivity, and I'm too lazy to get a new one for now at least.....

    The Cedars of I-95
    Innocent hopes follow
    the dusty track on
    the worn ground,
    to appease the soft,
    interminable twang
    of a dying harp’s echo.

    Immaculate cedars, pruned,
    And naked; starved
    writhe at the glaring of the glint.
    From one lone boy’s confidant gait,
    foot rises above foot, nation above self.

    The soft call of the doves
    perched pleasantly above our strangled
    peaches, growing on our strangled trees.
    Snarling the leaves from aside our thruways.
    Wavering on the edge, the call
    of dying acres comes mutely to his numbed ears.

    He walks with the immensity
    and sacrifice of the misled wraith;
    a presence of the Roman Army
    stretching from the Appian Way
    to the intersection
    of Cedar Ave. to Main.

    Along this shaven, tarmac victory
    lies a painful, beautiful defeat-
    a wry unfolding smile that keeps
    its Cheshire Cat composure
    as it is splintered and bound.

    Rupturing the
    punctured airbag of
    a speeding soul,
    carelessly shifted into
    a careful, domestic neutral, he walks on
    until Nero’s electric fiddle
    is barraged into every fiber
    of his waking catonia.
    Up bow, down bow-
    a strike at the destiny
    of a meaningless hell.

    So, a flicker
    of chilled fire
    registers quickly-lost
    to the screaming harpies
    pulsating on their latest kill.
    Steely ambrosia pumped
    Through their taut, muscled veins:
    Power out of practice.

    March on, neighbor, march on.

    Chronilize!
    -Jon
     
  23. iced_earth Anathematized Registered Senior Member

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    oh cool, you brought this thread back..i could never finnd it for awhile soi stoped posting .. but hey let me go find a poem be back.....
     

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