Questions about Covid-19?

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  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    breast feeding
    baby milk powder
    public breast feeding access for mothers
    womens rights
    equal rights

    value of life population control

    where value of life is less, they can afford more death
    where value of life is high they can afford less death

    equally
    high birth rate no population control no health care superstitious = long term incubation & genetic evolution of complex DNA RNA issues
    land of the zombies

    open street sewers. no running water
    and they want sci fi vaccine guarantees to sell to their religious leaders to give to their women slaves

    many 1st world countrys have many political leaders who hate working class and want to deny them health care housing food and medicine

    problem is greed idolization
    and brain washing society to love and obey greed
    so more is better
    but more many vaccines
    more virus
    more death
    more DNA mutation of virus
    not better
    soo many problems ... more is not better, in how they think and act.
    BUT ! more death is better for greed because it lets living greed steal dead peoples property and land and money
    (many 1st world political leaders & people enjoy this more death greed too, to steal peoples money[not just low life value countrys])

    (so more death is also more better for greedy people, so they want more death)

    read about immunological inheritance(how is immune system created in children/babys?)
    allergy science
    public health
    breeding reproductive health etc
     
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  3. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry, I do not understand, what you want to say. But It may not be linked to topic subject. So avoid.
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.pregnancybirthbaby.org.au/how-your-babys-immune-system-develops


    The immune system in babies
    Antibodies are passed from mother to baby through the placenta during the third trimester (last 3 months of pregnancy). This gives the baby some protection when they are born. The type and amount of antibodies passed to the baby depends on the mother’s own level of immunity.


    During birth, bacteria from the mother’s vagina is passed on to the baby. This helps to build the colony of bacteria in the gut that contributes to their immunity.


    After birth, more antibodies are passed on to the baby in colostrum and in breast milk. But babies’ immune systems are still not as strong as adults’. Premature babies are at greater risk of infection because their immune systems are even more immature and they haven’t had as many antibodies passed to them from their mothers.


    Babies produce their own antibodies every time they are exposed to a virus or germ, but it takes time for this immunity to fully develop.


    The passive immunity passed on from the mother at birth also doesn't last long and will start to decrease in the first few weeks and months after birth.


    How to boost your baby’s immune system
    Each time your baby gets sick, they are developing new antibodies that will protect them in the future. In the meantime, there are some important things you can do to protect your baby.

    Breastfeeding
    Breast milk contains many elements that support your baby’s immune system. These include proteins, fats, sugars and antibodies and probiotics. When a mother comes into contact with germs, she develops antibodies to help her fight off the infection. These are passed to the baby in breast milk. As mothers and babies are usually exposed to similar germs, this means the baby is protected.


    Breastfed babies have fewer infections and get better more quickly than formula-fed babies. However, breastfeeding cannot protect your baby from serious, life-threatening infections like polio, diphtheria or measles. Also, for mothers who are unable to breastfeed or who choose not to, infant formula is a healthy alternative.

    Immunisation or vaccination - what's the difference?

    https://www.pregnancybirthbaby.org.au/immunisation-or-vaccination-whats-the-difference
     
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  7. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    A difference in type of different vaccines can also be thought in above indications...their effectiveness on virus variants.
     
  8. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Something that I do not like about some of the vaccines is the tendency for somebody to test positive..... after they are vaccinated?
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    you need to keep in mind this is rocket science in the middle of the 1900 coal fired industrial evolution

    a lot of people who have not got the ability of self discipline to read correctly into science have may shallow concepts of science
    they have many of these but do not have the real working gears of how these things work at the base level

    but because they live urbanized lifes of privilege & have had their egos built around greed selfishness & arrogance and lack of caring for others,
    they believe simple things work best
    because "simple" is the only version of science they understand

    a best guess from as micro-biologist
    is vastly different to a best guess from an office worker who does not study science

    Egos are preached to be more important by the selfish & greedy tyrants

    so a scientist is said to have less value than a trendy fast talking urban simple person with narcissistic personality disorder.

    do most people agree that the world population needs to have half of all people killed ?
    probably yes
    but they also do not want to share resources even when half of all the worlds people are killed off.

    so how does that work ?
    it doesn't solve the original problem which caused the problem in the 1st place
    instead it rewards bad behavior that caused it.

    you want a 100% test for a virus that is novel
    which also interacts with proteins ...
    which also seems to have a-symptomatic stages of potential inability to test positive in a tiny fraction of cases

    so a tiny fraction of cases shows you wont get 100% all the time

    why do you want all the fat lazy diabetic middle class greedy selfish arrogant narcissists to survive ?

    they are just the same as extreme poor people who require food and medical aid

    like the common flu, it kills millions
    why is a vaccine any different if it only kills a few hundred thousand ?

    hundreds of millions of people do not care about the millions killed by common flu
    also do not care about millions who die from drug over dose & suicide

    people killed by vaccine complications is a tiny number
    why is it soo important in the news ?
    because the rich arrogant narcissistic middle class are the ones doing the dying
    & they believe their money & opulence can keep them safe from interacting with poor working class whom they do not care about
    and think are the dirty ones spreading covid & dying

    you want to get real
    but you don't want to be real
    but you want the real facts
    but you don't want to talk about the real facts

    the protein issue is very serious in my opinion
    and the worse the new variants develop
    the worse it becomes
    but who is changing
    advancing
    adapting
    evolving
    following the science
    sharing resources

    being smart and logical

    very very few

    • stock piling/hoarding
    • multiple vaccine types for long term security
    • will multiple vaccine inoculations be fatal for the patient ?
    • will RNA DNA issues create a fatal outcome in combined vaccine inoculations in patients over time as they get different types of vaccines ?

    1. excellent question you have asked many times

    but who are they and why should we care about them ?


    • given the spread of covid
    • the new variant evolution of covid will create the probable risk that most new infection risk comes from a variant that is soo divergent that all vaccines at current levels may give only a 50% or less efficacy
    so who gets the vaccine & who is left to die ?
    versus
    closure of borders(politicians playing personal power & money games to allow the people to die for their own ideologies)
    {lock-down no lock-down games by politicians causing deaths of hundreds of thousands of citizens putting their personal capitalist power & religious power & money before the science & the people currently demanding no lock downs, & no quarantines at the expense of hundreds of thousands of deaths of citizens}
    are they the same people like capitalists & fascists denying health care to the poor and working class ?

    you want to reward them ?
     
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  10. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Obiously, it will not be liked by anyone. Therefore there is an urgent need to understand it.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You mean a positive antibody test? Yes. That's how the vaccine works.
     
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  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea.../coronavirus-testing-what-is-an-antibody-test

    here are at least two kinds of tests for the coronavirus, a viral test and an antibody test. The viral test looks for evidence of the coronavirus in your respiratory system. A positive viral test means that you have SARS-CoV-2, the type of coronavirus that causes COVID-19. You may or may not have symptoms of the infection.
    A different kind of test looks for antibodies, which show you have been exposed to the coronavirus and that your immune system responded to it. Ben Larman, a Johns Hopkins researcher in immunopathology, helps you understand more about antibody tests and how they might be used in the COVID-19 pandemic.





    https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/the_facts_about_pfizer_and_biontech_s_covid_19_vaccine

    2. How does an mRNA vaccine work?
    mRNA, delivered to your body's cells by lipid nanoparticles, instructs the cells to generate the spike protein found on the surface of the novel coronavirus that initiates infection.1,2 Instructing cells to generate the spike protein spurs an immune response, including generation of antibodies specific to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.3

    mRNA vaccines do not contain any virus particles, meaning that they don't contain weakened or dead parts of a virus or bacterium.2


    3. Do mRNA vaccines change a person’s DNA?
    mRNA is a transient carrier of information that does not integrate into human DNA.2,4 mRNA does not enter a cell’s nucleus, which is where our DNA is kept.2



    Genetic immunity ?
    something that sits inside the DNA ?
    & is passed down from parent to child ?

    the only way for that urbanised word of "natural" immunity
    is by allowing hundreds of millions to die & wiping out another 15 to 20 trillion in the global economy
    currently India South-America USA
    can not handle number of dead at current peak.
    add on top maybe 2 times as much
    then think how EVERYTHING would collapse
    society would go to western shoot out zombie apocalypse level
    politicians would lose all their power
    government would fall apart
    medical systems would stop working
    oil & gas fuel for motor vehicles and trucks would stop
    all transport of goods would stop

    etc etc

    Genetic immunity ?
    inside long term populations where vaccines have been distributed for decades...
    millions have died over the decades

    holding data in one had
    but it must make sense to the virus
    in this case it cant be used to compare
    why ?
    because total death numbers of covid19 if it is allowed to spread without lock downs or vaccines
    would kill soo many society would collapse

    what happens when entire countrys collapse ?
    world war
    what type ? any type they can get.
     
  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    such science needs many years to study human breeding

    how many people now demand no more animal testing ?
    ok
    but how many more people die because cant test vaccines and drugs on animals ?

    want a long term vaccine with no side effects ?
    which vaccine has no listed side effects ?(= 0)

    people want a miracle cure to service their ignorance, laziness, arrogance, guilt & greed.


    no such vaccine ever existed or ever will exist

    you have a choice
    which animal gets to live
    your new born baby ?
    the kitten ?
    the puppy ?
    the rat ?
    the mouse ?
    the goat ?
    the sheep ?
    the cow ?
    the monkey ?

    you choose
    its your choice
    you have the power of god
    how will you use that power ?

    only 1 will survive
    and you get to choose

    which one will it be ?
     
  14. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Yes nut I think, he just meant positive positive viral test not positive antibody test.









    Yes but here we need to understand effect from mRNA vaccine or vactine using subunit of virus as compared to vaccine made
    from using whole virus. Can vaccines made from using whole virus be multi-immunogenic but less
    robust(being have distributed immune responses) and so may also work for virus few variants wheareas vaccines based on using subunit or one part of virus in uni-immunogenic and with more robust but simple and specific immune response so non effective on variants?





    Genetic immunity ?
    something that sits inside the DNA ?
    & is passed down from parent to child ?

    the only way for that urbanised word of "natural" immunity
    is by allowing hundreds of millions to die & wiping out another 15 to 20 trillion in the global economy
    currently India South-America USA
    c
    .[/QUOTE]

    Avoid looking at total numbers of India look per million.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coron...bnmlJQs7CD6ZFWYpJLtqHJ9GSV-_W11PMcRMLsHGUaPSc

    Above trusted link suggestsm Total cases per million population in India is hardly 19659 and deaths 226 which is still
    much less than USA and many other advanced countries. No sense of making total numbers as an issue.
     
  15. candy Registered Senior Member

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    I suspect he is referring to those that have contracted covid after they were vaccinated.
    Luckily for them they get a mild form not the long version.
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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  17. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but still it is per million population, which is more sensible to compare.
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And who does the reporting of the castes?

    Moreover, the US has a much greater social interaction than India. It is to be expected that the pandemic spread much faster here than elsewhere. But give it time, the exponential function is equally effective in large populations as in small segments of the population.
     
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  19. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    It depend on type of comparison you want to make. If it is at caste level, it is will depend on number of people in those castes but if you want to compare different countries, you have to base per million population. Whatever environment prevail in any country, is not so importsnt because per mollion population eill take care all environmental effects and social practices prevail in those countries.
     
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    roughly times it by 20
    that will be closer to the real figure
     
  21. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    We do not know it. One can speculate any odd figure which has no validity unless well recorded. Dead bodies can not be hidden.
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    If you burn them they can.
     
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  23. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Yes but atleast these are properly recorded.
     

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